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Monday, February 24, 2014

Chinese Moneyboy Scam 3

4.   The Scams

  1. Meeting in a public place
  2. Showing up at his place
  3. He shows up at your place
  4. Doin' It
  5. "Whaddya Mean More Money...?? WTF??!!" 

1.   Meeting in a public place - From what we heard and saw, meeting in a crowded public place was by far the safest bet in deciding whether the MCM was real or a fake. A Starbucks coffee shop works well for this purpose, but be aware of lingering resistance on the part of the moneyboy to do so. A customer will have to be very firm in rejecting an MCM who's clearly a fake.  It should be made very clear on the phone that he has to show up alone somewhere public where his stats and appearance will be verified before a final decision is made - and that if he is a fake, no money will be given at all. 

These guys are cocky and thick-skinned, knowing fully well they're fakes, they'll still attempt to obtain reimbursement of "taxi fare".  Show them the fake ad and tell them to fuck off. It is advisable to remain in the coffee shop alone for a while longer to prevent them from following you on the street. We heard stories of some MCMs refusing to leave unless they were paid off.  It can get tricky.

As mentioned above, there can be lingering resistance on the part of the moneyboy to meet in a public place.  Some may suggest meeting in Kowloon Park (which has acquired something of a reputation for attracting MCMs).  These guys aren't stupid. They're cunning and wily. Since they're operating for a syndicate, chances are these MCMs know each other.  If the one who shows up is an obvious fake and is being rejected without being paid off, all it takes is a phonecall and......out of the bushes come his pals to "persuade" his outnumbered "customer".  This can get very nasty.

Some of the people who spoke to us, told us that they had recorded the encounters at a public place on their phone.  Unfortunately they had since deleted them and we weren't able to verify what went down.


2.   Showing Up At His Place..........This is what the MCM actually want because it plays right into the hands of the syndicate which appears to be running the show.  

A lot of them stay in crummy hourly hotels or guesthouses, specifically, at the intersection of Nathan Road and Jordan Road - and even more specifically, near Jordan MTR Station Exits A and B. The buildings in that area are old, dating from the late 1940s. They are not well maintained.

The scam starts at street level. In the course of the phone conversation, the MCM will ask the customer what he looks like or will be wearing. That information is passed to "stringers" hanging around the entrances to the buildings at Exits A and B. Believe it or not, a lot of these "stringers" are women who also operate as touts to funnel newly arrived (Mainland Chinese) tourists into these low-budget guesthouses. Armed with a general description of the customer and the time he's scheduled to arrive, these stringers will approach the customer and ask which guesthouse he's looking for. They'll then point them to the right one.

Alternatively, the MCM and his handler will monitor the travel progress of the customer by sending text messages asking the customer's present location and how long he'll take to get to Exit A or B of Jordan MTR Station.  The customer will be told that on arriving at the right Exit, he should call and the exact location will then be texted to him.  This is an important point. The MCM or his handler will only disclose the exact location at the last minute.

On arriving at the guesthouse, the door may be opened - not by the staff of the guesthouse - but by the MCM's agent or the moneyboy himself (or both). The customer will be led to one of the dingy rooms where for the first time, the customer will realize the escort's stats were a total fake and the atmosphere is pretty menacing. But the customer is outnumbered in that little room by the escort and his handler and cannot leave. There may be an immediate demand for cash at the figure quoted on the phone. Once the cash is handed over, the handler leaves the room.

That's not the end of the customer's liability.  See below in "Whaddya Mean More Money??.....WTF??!!"


3.   He Shows Up At Your Place - Assume that the MCM has agreed to come to the customer's hotel room. We were told that as a matter of safety, it is imperative that the escort should first be met at the lobby i.e. a public location to verify his stats and his fees. This is because some MCMs may show up with a handler who will demand payment upfront. 

If the MCM is a fake, tell them or him to fuck off. If they demand to be paid off before they leave, simply walk up to the hotel Reception Desk, point them out, tell them they're bothering you and get security to throw them out. We were told that it's far safer for the escort and his handler to publicly scream that you hired an escort than to risk something potentially violent in the privacy of the hotel room. Do not make the mistake of bringing them up to your hotel room just to keep things quiet.

Assuming the MCM is genuine, never agree to the handler also coming up to the hotel room.  That is  also asking for trouble. 

A further safeguard before taking the (genuine) MCM to your room is to walk with him to the Reception Desk and tell the staff to telephone you in an hour because you have a very important appointment that you don't want to miss.  The point being made here is:
  • to get the staff to have a visual recognition of the MCM;
  • to get the MCM's face on the security cameras behind the Reception Desk in case anything goes wrong;
 Look fags, we're just faithfully passing on information from those who admitted to having used MCMs - some with very bitter and traumatic memories.


4.   Doin' It......
  • If the MCM is genuine, your fun might last an hour or two depending on what's was agreed beforehand.
  • If the MCM is a total fake and the customer is unable to leave the room or the premises (because he's "trapped" in the guesthouse in Jordan), the MCM will completely dictate how long the encounter will last, having received prior orders from his handler. Anecdotally, we hear it can be  over in just 5 minutes. The standard "trick" is for the MCM to "fake an orgasm", shove the customer out of the way, run into the dingy shower next to the bed and wash off. The befuddled customer will be unable to leave because he's still naked and the handler and others are prowling the guesthouse corridor. Be warned...................The MCM emerges from the shower, gets dressed in silence, turns to the customer........................


5.  Whaddya Mean More Money....??!! WTF...??!!

We've already referred to demands for "taxi money" and/or other payoffs where the MCM is a fake and is rejected by the customer at a public location or a hotel lobby. But it gets better..........

Whether or not the MCM is genuine, expect demands for additional cash.
  • If the MCM is genuine, he may request a "tip" for services rendered. Some may leave it to the customer to decide, others will specifically request an additional amount. They can be quite persistent and badgering (obviously well trained) and the frustrated, pissed off customer will pay them just to get rid of them.
  • If the MCM is a fake, this is where it gets interesting. As we said before, where the customer has ended up at the guesthouse, he's trapped (because the entire guesthouse has apparently been taken over by MCMs and their handlers). The demand for additional cash is delivered in a cold and calculating manner, often with an implicit threat. We've heard anecdotally, it can be extremely un-nerving when the demand for additional cash is first made in the little dingy room by the fake MCM with the fake 5 minute orgasm, backed up by the door being opened and one or more handlers barging in and demanding more cash now.  The customer simply cannot leave without the real fear of violence.
  • The amount of additional cash varies widely. Roughly, if the customer was intially quoted HK$1,500.00 either on the phone or in person, the demand for more cash can be in the range of HK$1,000.00 to HK$2,500.00. That means a customer could end up paying HK$2,500.00 to HK$4,000.00 for 5 minutes with a fake MCM. Incidentally, a conned white guy would end up paying more..............
  • The "justification" is that the initial figure was for "social companionship" and that since "additional services" were provided, more money has to be paid now. This is a complete reversal of all the assurances and promises made on the phone when the customer first set up the appointment.
  • The customer may not have the additional cash. In that case:
    (a) a demand will be made to hand over his credit card with additional "handling fees" being imposed.This should never be handed over.
     (b) One or more handlers will accompany the utterly terrified customer from the guesthouse to the nearest ATM of his bank. This is effectively a mugging because the handler will demand that the customer hand over his mobile phone or in some cases, his ID card, which will only be returned when the additional cash is handed over. The preferred modus operandi is to use the ATMs in the MTR Stations since several banks are represented there and the handler can then disappear into the crowd.
  • We were not able to find out what happens when it's after 1am, the MTR stations are closed and the customer is trapped in the guesthouse without additional cash.
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